Strength & Speed

"If you want something you never had, you have to be willing to do something you have never done."

Podcast- 2023 Episodes

Strength & Speed podcast is an Obstacle Course Racing (OCR) focused podcast that aims to bring you the best techniques and training tips in OCR.  

What makes us different is the unique approach to taking lessons learned from other sports and applying them to OCR.  Plus, we try to focus on the smaller or lesser known race series to highlight their unique take on OCR. Subscribe to the feed to keep up with the latest episodes.

We will be talking and interviewing athletes, coaches and race directors from inside the OCR industry as well as athletes from other sports.  

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S&S Podcast Host

Strength & Speed owner, MudGear-Hannibal Race Pro Athlete and Hammer Nutrition sponsored athlete Evan Perperis.  For full bio click here.

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S&S Latest Podcast Episodes

Host of the Obstacle Running Adventures podcast, Mike Stefano, jumps in to fill in for filmmaker Bobby Ross on the latest episode talking about Fox/HULU's TV show Special Forces.  This is the third part in this mini-series, but don't worry if you didn't listen to the other two or watch the show, you'll still learn about what is real, what is Hollywood and the psyche of Special Operations Soldiers vs. athletes. 


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Weston Titus and his fiance Taryn Brees have an impressive list of certifications and degrees but they are about to take on one of their biggest challenges, The Death Race.  The two not only talk about the upcoming extreme endurance event but share some of their knowledge from their Masters degrees in Kinesiology and as F45 gym owners.  Plus, Weston shares some insight on his research into the effectiveness (or lack there of) of using CBD oil for sports performance and Taryn talks about where we lose strength/plateau for ultra-endurance.  Finally, Evan answers a question on the the importance of sleep deprivation training using lessons learned from the military (Ranger/Special Forces).  You don't want to miss this knowledge packed episode.


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Cindy Herbert, a mother of three, was the recent winner of 5k Mythic Race in the Elite female field.  She joins Evan Perperis on the podcast to talk about he journey into the sport of OCR, what Mythic Race was like and information about the Phoenix Pro Team.  Plus, she shares some emotional stories about how she has put a past of disordered eating behind her. 


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Combat veteran Kyle Butters joins Evan to talk about raising money for Infinite Hero Foundation.  In June, Kyle is planning on running 22 miles a day for two days in a row to raise awareness and money for mental health care for veterans.  You can donate, participate in person pacing him or do a shadow run anywhere in the US.  Details are available on the Infinite Hero website:


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A legend from American Ninja Warrior Jamie "Captain NBC" Rahn joins Evan to talk about ninja training, behind the scenes of ANW, how he came up with his iconic costume and more.  Then the two jump into OCR talking about some of the most unique brands like Goliathon in New Jersey and Hazelwood OCR Massacre (3 miles, 65+ obstacles) in St. Louis Missouri.


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Filmmaker Bobby Ross returns for part 2 of commentary on Fox/Hulu's TV show Special Forces.  Bobby and Special Forces veteran Evan Perperis talk about what is realistic, what is Hollywood and how the military sometimes accomplishes the same results with less cost. 

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Ryan Hart, the owner of Hart Fitness gym and the head of the OCR team Flatliners joins Evan to talk about his team.  Flatliners are a staple of the Midwest and are at every race within driving distance of Chicago.  The group Flatliners has everything from new to the sport/fresh off the couch all the way to elite athletes, motivating those with their motto, "Failure is Dead on Arrival".  Follow their Facebook page for details on their upcoming events:


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Filmmaker Bobby Ross ( joins Special Forces veteran Evan Perperis to talk about Fox / HULU's new reality show Special Forces.  The show, very similar to The Selection, takes 16 celebrities and puts them through a Special Operations type selection scenario.  Evan shares his thoughts on how closely it resembles real military training, where it differs and why they do things a certain way.  Bobby add some details as an outsider and a filmmaker on shooting a reality TV show.  The two avoid major spoilers and link the lessons to mental toughness along with OCR so you'll enjoy this episode whether you watched the show, plan on watching the show or have no interest in watching the show.


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Army helicopter pilot and Brazilian Jiu Jitsu (BJJ) black belt Jon Jordan joins Evan for the latest Strength & Speed podcasts.  The two talk about training for BJJ, crossover points with OCR, how the structure of BJJ is like OCR with multiple brands/styles that don't always overlap with competitors, the benefits/drawbacks of having your sport in the Olympics and more.  As a BJJ competitor and an occasional run at OCR events, Jon brings some great insight to the conversation.


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Mike Stefano, host of the Obstacle Running Adventures podcast (subscribe and listen to his podcast here: ), joins Evan to talk about the OCR Expo he is helping run in New England on March 11th.  You'll hear sneak peaks of some of the vendors, activities and details of the event.  Plus, Mike and Evan discuss 3k change to Spartan World Championships, Spartan Combat and Evan gives a sneak peak at his book being released in 2023 (also teased in the back of his latest book On On Endurance here: ).  Plus the two attempt to settle the debate on who is a bigger video game nerd...


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Rachel Watters fresh off her win from Hannibal Race Kuwait joins Evan back on the podcast to talk about the experience.  The two talk travel, culture, the race itself and fun things they learned during the trip.  Plus, Rachel and Evan share their opinion on non-alcoholic beer....


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Rachel Watters joins Evan excited to take on Hannibal Race in less than a week.  Make sure you follow along our social channels (@UltraOCRman @StrengthSpeed @MudGearBOTLProTeam and @Rachel_Fit_Girl) for all the updates.  The first half of the episode they talk expectations and Kuwaiti culture, great if you are planning a trip to the Middle East to race for something like Spartan World Championships in 2023. 

The second half of the episode they talk about the "OCR Triple Crown", FISO and why they have reservations with the organization along with their events. 


Some further date details not included in the podcast:

Reference USAOCR (different than Adventurey's USOCRC):  

   2016: Organization founded (no events)

   2017: Put their label on Spartan Race in Florida

        Training camp held in Colorado in December (this is the best thing imo, the organization has done)

   2018: Event held Dec 1-2 in Southern California (referenced by Rachel, Evan mistakenly confused Florida event with this one)....again putting their label on a Spartan Race with some unique USAOCR twists

   2019: Event held in Oct at Black Diamond Course in Ohio (36 out of 60 athletes received a podium medal, all but 1 female who showed up received a podium medal.  Largest AG competition had 12 athletes, next largest 7 athletes)

  2020-2022: No events held


FISO (the world organization):

   2016: Organization starts (no events)

   2017-2018: No world or international events I'm tracking

   2019: National events outside the US including Phillipines

        Their 1st World Championship event, 100m in Russia

   2020-2021: No Events as far as I can tell

   2022: No event, they put their label on World's Toughest Mudder, no one at WTM mentioned them at any point during the pre-race briefing or post-race awards brunch


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